Comments on: Adam and Steve? http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/ Buckling Down, Tightening Up, and Flying Right Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:30:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: semanticdrifter http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-882 semanticdrifter Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:27:10 +0000 http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-882 Well, that's more or less what I was trying to say. The counter argument, and I think it's a fair one is that as long as you say that gays can have "unions" and us breeders can have "marriages" you are creating a distinction. A distinction without difference, perhaps, but it still a fundamental way of saying that gay unions don't measure up. And I guess it depends on the church. There are probably more than a few Christian churches that would be okay with it. Well, that’s more or less what I was trying to say. The counter argument, and I think it’s a fair one is that as long as you say that gays can have “unions” and us breeders can have “marriages” you are creating a distinction. A distinction without difference, perhaps, but it still a fundamental way of saying that gay unions don’t measure up.

And I guess it depends on the church. There are probably more than a few Christian churches that would be okay with it.

]]> By: Lidiya http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-878 Lidiya Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:37:42 +0000 http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-878 I don't think the phrase "civil union" (as related to same-sex couples) reeks of anything at all like "equal-but-separate". Heterosexual couples that are non- (or even anti-) religious still unite their lives in a way that is recognizable by law, and what is that, if not a civil union? Personally, I'd be against any same-sex couple that wanted to get married in a Christian church, because on my respect-o-meter that is no better than anti-gay picketers showing up to their wedding if it was held elsewhere. Just an opinion. I don’t think the phrase “civil union” (as related to same-sex couples) reeks of anything at all like “equal-but-separate”. Heterosexual couples that are non- (or even anti-) religious still unite their lives in a way that is recognizable by law, and what is that, if not a civil union? Personally, I’d be against any same-sex couple that wanted to get married in a Christian church, because on my respect-o-meter that is no better than anti-gay picketers showing up to their wedding if it was held elsewhere. Just an opinion.

]]> By: semanticdrifter http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-729 semanticdrifter Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:27:05 +0000 http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-729 I don't personally know either of the young ladies in question, but more power to them. Janet Thompson pseems to more or less agree with what I was trying to say "I suppose I personally feel that if gays can get every single marriage right and have it called a civil union and be universal, that's OK with me. That it's not the words so much as getting those rights. Being married to the person you love is going to trump all else." I don’t personally know either of the young ladies in question, but more power to them. Janet Thompson pseems to more or less agree with what I was trying to say “I suppose I personally feel that if gays can get every single marriage right and have it called a civil union and be universal, that’s OK with me. That it’s not the words so much as getting those rights. Being married to the person you love is going to trump all else.”

]]> By: Angela http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-728 Angela Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:13:19 +0000 http://semanticdrift.com/politics/adam-and-steve/#comment-728 Someone you and I both know from high school got gay married in san fran. Couple #23. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/03/14/LVGH65H19M1.DTL Someone you and I both know from high school got gay married in san fran. Couple #23.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/03/14/LVGH65H19M1.DTL

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